sirploko
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Looking for general offers on my stuff. I highly prefer Scorching, Burning, Beams, Energies and Roboactive.

I'm not opposed to 2nd and 3rd gens per se, but I will likely not be very interested either. Please do not offer killstreak or collectors items, they don't tickle my fancy at all.

Leave an offer below or send a trade offer, I don't accept friend invites unless I know you.

Note the histories on the Max' heads. Both are unduped and I'm the 3rd and 2nd owner respectively, therefore I won't let go of them for the price of a regular old Max.

Thanks.
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Asznee
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Do you have general interests in a Burning Whoope? because I like a few of your unusuals and I would like to make a deal
sirploko
I don't like the whopee very much, sorry.
FiveDollar
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max hat...

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23404496#latest
sirploko
No thanks.
texan
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BMOC+ green black hole carouser's capotain for max's. i can also add some keys
sirploko
No thanks.
moo5e
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Hey, I'd like to offer on your unusual. Please add me
sirploko
You can offer here or send me a trade offer, I don't accept adds. Sorry.
moo5e
Okay, well I just wanna talk and don't wanna spam this page.
moo5e
Actually, I retract, thanks anyway!
istealboatz
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I'd like to offer my FN/MW looking knife on your max's heads - Screenshot here - http://puu...dd6187
Shadow
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Hi. I am very familiar with Outpost's rules. In fact, I even re-read them when I saw your comment to make sure I am not violating any. Unless the rules have been changed, and I did not read them properly, my trade notes were not in violation of any Outpost's rules.

Plenty of things people know about Team Fortress 2 are based on evidence or observation gathered by players without any official statement from Valve. If all knowledge or information about the game that is known WITHOUT an official statement were be considered invalid, then you would be nullifying much of the sections of Undocumented Changes or Bugs on the TF2Wiki. Much of what is known about this game comes without official statement from valve.

I made a claim based on the fact that absolutely zero veils have been unboxed in over a year. This a very commonly known piece of information by much of the tf2 community; especially traders. However, not all traders know this, which is why I included it in my notes. The no longer unboxable quirk is also true for Coffin kits, HazMat headcases, and Noh Mercies - none of those have been unboxed in over a year; in fact the Noh Mercy hasn't been unboxed in over 3 years. All of these previous mentioned unusuals have had no official comment from Valve that they cannot be unboxed, yet there is solid evidence that has been yet to be refuted that they are indeed unboxable.

In all of my time of using Outpost, including my year+ of serving as an admin (and enforcing that same rule set you are now enforcing), having information in your trade notes, especially with the purpose of educating other traders, has never been against the rules.

If this is no longer the case, please cite to me which rule I have broken. If I am shown to be wrong, I offer my sincere apology and will continue to do my best to adhere to the rules. However, if you cannot show which rule I have broken, I request an apology from you. In 24 hours or whenever you reply to this statement (whichever is sooner), I am going to remake my trade for my unusual Veil. I ask that you not close it and forward it to a senior admin for them to determine which rule I have broken.

With respect and sincerity,
Thanks.
sirploko
Hey Shadow. I was told a long time ago, to ask people to remove factual statements about their items that are not substantiated by anything tangible. I know about the apparent inablitiy to unbox these miscs, yet neither you nor I (or anyone else besides Valve employees) can tell with certainty, that these items are no longer obtainable. If you make a claim about your item (1 of 1, 1st gen, whatever) it needs to be true, otherwise it is considered misleading and refusal to correct it may result in a trade being closed. You definitely know about the last point in the rules " Note: Most rules are common sense and it would therefore be impossible to list all the things you could do to get yourself banned. This page is not acting as a complete list of bannable offenses — it instead aims to clear up some confusion about those rules that may not be obvious. All moderators and admins have the power to close trades as they see fit (with reason, of course). No ranks exempt you from the site rules. Users with premium status will not be refunded any duration of time lost if banned. Permanent bans will result in permanent revocation of premium status." , which covers things that are not explicitly mentioned. Since you didn't bother to even reply to my request after 30 hours, I closed the trade. I was in mumble with Zem and BSOD at the time and you can feel free to ask them or Sneeza about my interpretation of the rules in this case. It isn'T something I came up with on my own, in fact I had 3 or 4 tickets about the same exact thing before and everyone simply removed the statement upon my request. IIRC, it was another veil trade that stated the same thing, that prompted me to inquire about this when I started out. I was told that you can not make claims that are not true. Speculation, no matter how much it is supported by statistics, does not count as truth. I was talking to Sneeza, who deferred me to BSOD and the final call is that you can not make that statement, without explaining why. So if you want to remake the trade, make sure you do so. http://outpost.gg/sp/gohhy8.png
Shadow
Thanks for the response. Being told to remove factual statements about their items that are not substantiated by anything tangible sounds fine with me; I agree that should be done. However, you you say "If you make a claim about your item (1 of 1, 1st gen, whatever) it needs to be true" I believe this to be contradicting. The fact that a hat may be 1of1 and the fact that a hat is no longer unboxable both can be true. Both facts are conclusions derrived from examining data found on community sites. It is generally considered true (omitting the case of dupes) that the number of hats unboxed is easily looked up. For example, one can clearly see the Harvest Moon Veil is 1of1 on this page: http://backpack.tf/unusuals/Villain%27s%20Veil Just as factually, you can clearly see the last time a villian's veil was unboxed here: http://backpack.tf/premium/search?cat=particle&particle=-1&defindex=393&tradable=-1&level=-1 You'll notice that on the left it shows the (Original) ItemID it was given when uncrated. The last one was 1902Million. Original IDs for new items are already over 3100Million, meaning with the data (that anyone can access, mind you) proves veils have not been unboxed in well over a year. The fact that the Harvest veil is 1of1 is supported by evidence, AND the fact that veils are no longer is supported by equally solid evidence yet users are required to show proof in their notes of the latter but not the former? Why is that? In other words, both conclusions (again, the first conclusion being that the Harvest veil is 1of1, and the second conclusion being that veils are no longer unboxable) are arrived by evidence, yet it's permissible for users to state their hat is 1of1 in their trade notes without linking to proof - where is the difference between these two conclusions to warrant one to require proof and the other not? I have no problem including proof for statements made in trade notes if that were required (it would be great if that were in the rules, btw) but that would also mean everyone who claims their hat is 1ofX in their trade notes would have to include links to proof for their claims too, correct? Apologies for the lengthy response but I do appreciate the time of those involved with clearing up this grey area. If an amendment to the rules comes of this discussion, then I would say it's been well worthwhile. Also apologies for lack of formatting, paragraphs are not permitted in offer responses.
sirploko
The difference between the 2 is, that one claim can easily be refuted by finding a second hat. The info on the trade can be outdated if another one gets unboxed, so the claim itself does not necessarily need proof, since you can just look it up yourself to confirm it. Claiming something is unobtainable, on the other hand, is not something that can be verified easily if there is no official statement. It is mere speculation, albeit supported by statistical evidence. But since we are not a science journal, it is not enough to make a statement on that basis alone. I would compare it to people that claim their hat will be the next misc, it could very well be true, but there is no guarantee.
M8
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C9 Flamboyant For Max's?
sirploko
No thanks.
reindeer-
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1 of 1 PE maddendoktor + p. fetti stuntman for the crown?
sirploko
No thanks.
Asdfasux
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purple energy sober stuntman and 23 keys for max
sirploko
No thanks.
penisland
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Spellbound valley forge for little buddy?
sirploko
No thanks.
Cocksucker Blues
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Interested in a Burning Tam+Ghosts Jeep for the crown?
sirploko
No thanks.
wawasdsd
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Knifestorm Tyrant's Helm (clean) + 10 key for tavish
sirploko
No thanks.
wawasdsd
Scorching Flames Liquidator's Lid(clean) + 8 key
seren ✿
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Want my whole backpack for the Medi and Softcap?
sirploko
Uhh, unless you are talking about something other than the 8 dollar backpack I see, it's a categorical no thank you.
NikoOoOO upgrade.gg
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2 buds and orb fire pyro benie If you want I can add little sweers for max
sirploko
No thank you.
will (bad)
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GBH tyro for the softcap?
sirploko
ROFL
tuuwop
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ghosts demo's fro for the honcho's
sirploko
No thanks.
MPD Schitzo
4 buds for both Max heads, i currently can only buy 1 if you accept, i'll buy the other one next week if its still available.

I am collecting all Max heads with short history and clean.
If you're interested add me.
MPD Schitzo
no wait, 4 buds each^ didn't mean for both xD my bad.
sirploko
I can do that for the level 49 one, I want to keep one for myself. Just send me a trade offer.
Niko
interested in my burning honcho + 8key for both max+crown
sirploko
Not a bad offer at all, but I'm gonna pass. Thank you.
Mistail
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burning flames doctor's sack for max's
sirploko
No thanks.
Baloo
Wanna upgrade to a Sunbeams Crown :3
sirploko
Downgrade is the word you are looking for and the answer is no.
sirploko
You little rascal.
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I can do all the unusuals above for my Clean Arcana Bonk, or all of them + 2 maxes for my scout set ==> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23128442#latest
Interested?
sirploko
Good one, I needed a chuckle today.
Tony-Bruh
105 keys for Tavish Crown
34 keys for Blighted Beak
24 keys for Honcho's Headgear
105 keys for both Max Heads

I can also add what's left of Baloo's ego. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
sirploko
No thanks to all of the above, except for Baloos ego. How much for that alone?
Tony-Bruh
A large pepperoni pizza + vintage grizzled veteran + your moderator position.
Tony-Bruh
Or a gifted crate.
sirploko
Hmm, tough choice.
Martyn
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Interested in: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23526680 for Max's head?
sirploko
No thanks, not a fan of the new Halloween effects.
oS. 산토끼
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Flaming Lantern Carouser's Capotain + 16key + Horace for Max
big ass afro
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c bubbles modest for crown
sirploko
o.O
rappa
Just wanted to say: Nice Collection, good luck selling.
sirploko
Thanks.
Roy Mustang
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just wondering, what does that little star on your name mean or do?
:)
sirploko
I am a moderator.
Roy Mustang
oooooh ok so whats your job. if you dont mind me aksing.
Roy Mustang
sorry for being really curious. and i meant asking*
sirploko
When you file tickets on the site, they get assigned to us and we deal with them.
Roy Mustang
ok ty for your time. and sorry for clogging your trade ^^
sirploko
No problem at all.
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Blizz Lucky Shot and Smoking Hallmark for Beak?
sirploko
No thanks.
OL BIB
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ghosts beret for honchos
sirploko
No thanks.
Virgilly ❤️Abled
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A nice looking dr dappers topper with terror watt effect for beak?
sirploko
No thanks.
Virgilly ❤️Abled
ok well good luck with trading!
HowAboutNO
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Please do not be blind and rude

http://img...WMVvz1
sirploko
When I closed the ticket, he had 15 assorted keys in his inventory.
Nekko
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Haunted Phantasmal ghosts slick cut? its going for 7 buds everywhere, but i only want bunny ears :3
sirploko
No thanks, not a fan of the new Halloween effects.
shit game
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Smoking Flipped Trilby + Cloud 9 Fruit Shoot + 10keys (high overpay :3)
Tony-Bruh
You didnt mention for which item(s) 0.o
shit game
oops for the max head lol :)
sirploko
No thanks.
Jona
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Cloud 9 Virus doctor for max head?
Jona
i can add a bit
sirploko
I'll pass, thanks.
ruddel
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Burning Magistrate for a max
sirploko
No thanks.
ruddel
Okay, thanks for the super quick reply, hiding :)
Rabula
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Dp crone's dome for max head (clean)
sirploko
Not a terrible offer, but I'm gonna pass. Thanks.
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unusual samur-eye w/ miami lights for your max's?
sirploko
No thanks.
Toobius
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Power surge Detective Noir for Max?
sirploko
No thanks.
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Bubbling Pencil Pusher (Misc) + Lvl 69 Nuts & Bolts Luchadore (Misc) + Smoking Birdcage for max head
4+ in miscs
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23622038
sirploko
No thanks.
MisterCalle
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Miami Nights TC + nuts n bolts Rack for your Softcap?
sirploko
No thanks.
Locky
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3 buds+ 3 keys for a max head
sirploko
Obviously not. I ultimately did not take the 4 pure offer above, so I'm certainly no take yours.
sirploko
not going to take yours* (sorry it's late)
다시하는중..
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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23634059#latest tavich
sirploko
No thanks.
Greederino
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C9 Scotsman's Stovepipe for the Beak?
sirploko
No thanks.
Seedy Melon
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Not an offer, But I really like the demo render! (:
sirploko
It was done by my colleague http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/2970. He's taking requests via http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ascentSFM.
Seedy Melon
Thanks, i have sent him a request via the discussion
Seedy Melon
Hiding for space
Archie
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Your crown is duped. http://backpack.tf/item/270782002
sirploko
No shit.
Xeriaso
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its a secret to everybody shooters sola topi
sirploko
No thanks. Don't like the Topi.
Festive Spoon
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GE Noir for a Max, i can maybe add a few keys?
sirploko
No thanks.
♪♫DJ KUSH♫♪
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add to beak for g fetti beak
sirploko
No thanks.
다시하는중..
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Sunbeams Ye Olde Baker Boy+ 18# nabler tavich
sirploko
No thanks.
Smetana
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kill a watt executioner for max's?
sirploko
No thanks.
Smetana
could i add some sweets for a deal?
sirploko
I'm not a big fan of the executioner, sorry. But thanks for the offer.
Smetana
what you think of a flaming lantern gentleman's gatsby + a prof killstreak sniper rifle?
sirploko
Not what I'm looking for either, sorry.
Smetana
eh, alright then, have a nice day and gl selling
TrEaX
Unusual Shooter Tin Toopi PowerSurge
Unusual Furuios Fukaamigasa Aces High
+5 key for max
sirploko
No thanks.
c9 Whirly Warrior + smoking attendant?
For a max sorry c:
sirploko
No thanks.
How much do I need to add?
I can see if I cant come back with about 3.5-6
sirploko
We might be able to work something out, but the 2 hats you offered earlier are not particularly appealing to me, so it's not a case of having to add.
Ok. Should I add you to keep in touch?
sirploko
I prefer to keep it on this trade.
Ok.
I can do the whirly + a bud or something
Taste the Painbow
Hey sirploko sry that this is non trade related but I wanted to ask what ban evasion was? I noiticed a few people that posted on some of my previous trades got banned latter for it
sirploko
If you log in with an alt account while banned.
Taste the Painbow
Thanks for clarifying for me :)
Boats
How much for the Little Buddy?
Soap Taste Ok
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Specialized killstreak australium medigun for bleak
sirploko
No thanks.
Soap Taste Ok
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anything from my bp that might appease u?
sirploko
Not really, sorry.
Soap Taste Ok
alright, gl 2 u
m0rxx
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Crown + Little Buddy for a clean Scorching Drill hat? Duped one sold for 13.5 recently
sirploko
No thanks.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23690474 if your crown is clean :)
sirploko
It isn't and even if it was I would have to pass. Thanks though.
SαℓρS
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Its price written on backpack.tf (for the ones who are interested with it) it cant be a reason to close my trade, i did nothing wrong against rules im putting it on sale with gibus because they both have halloween theme so whats wrong with it? and its easy to see that if i put on something on a trade means im thinking to sell it, so i think you have to check these trades and act fairly, before closing my trades everytime ;

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23706404
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23663669
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23723976
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23274628
sirploko
1. It has no price on bp.tf 2.We allow it (as well as other stuff like the merc medal) as placeholders for your entire backpack until we have the backpack icons ready. You clearly put it up with no intention to sell it, nor was it a placeholder for your backpack. The first time your trade was being closed was for another reason and you had it in there as well. I'm not going to discuss this any further, do what the rules say or face the consequences..
Max
Can i do my masters yellow belt (stormy storm) and around 6 keys worth of sweets. (the unusual currently has a offer of stormy sotrm hat of cards which is 3,2 bud on outpost) for the maxs? :)
sirploko
No thanks.
This trade is done, so you can't post. Sorry, mate.